Apr. 9th, 2017 07:46 pm
muccamukk: Stephen with his hand to his forehead, looking exhausted. (B5: Tired)
[personal profile] muccamukk
(which just logged me out three times)

Since it's a topic that's going around. I've got a lot of mixed feelings about leaving LJ, though I don't regret it. A list:
  • I don't think that there will be any consequence to me in RL under the new rules.

  • I don't think it's likely that any of my content would be taken down under the new rules.

  • It's possible that LJ would do a strikethrough style keyword based deletion of all gay content.

  • It's much more likely that the new rules will be used to come down on Russian and Ukrainian political bloggers.*

  • It's possible that my e-mail and password have been harvested by whoever.

  • I kind of assumed that'd already happened.

  • I also think pretty much all of the above took effect the second the servers moved.

  • I don't think having the TOS only officially in Russian is either here or there. It seems like pretty common practice. Just sucks to be on the other side of it.

  • All the new ad stuff sounds obnoxious as hell.

  • The ToS acceptance thing was also obnoxious, but that's probably the strongest word I'd use.

For the most part, I looked at the whole thing and went, "Oh, Lord. Livejournal again." And realised that was one of the many, many times I'd said that in the last few years. When I thought about it, I didn't have ANYONE who posted regularly there and not here. There were a few comms, none of which I was deeply invested in or didn't mirror somewhere. So I just said screw it and bailed. The newish posting interface is almost unusable for me anyway. So that's my grand moving reason: Was tired of this shit.

Seems like a lot of people did, going by DW's new journal numbers here.
2017-04-01: 278
2017-04-02: 198
2017-04-03: 1327
2017-04-04: 22331
2017-04-05: 27948
2017-04-06: 54721
2017-04-07: 23707
2017-04-08: 18610
2017-04-09: 25000

I did end up deciding not to tick the boxes that would delete both all my old comments and my comm posts, in case others wanted to keep or move them. I have a couple very, very old side journals that I don't care about and don't remember the passwords for, which whateverthehell can happen to.

*This is the one thing that actually bothers rather than irritates me.

Date: 2017-04-10 03:31 am (UTC)
kore: (Peggy Carter)
From: [personal profile] kore
I'm selfishly hoping this leads to more content on DW, I can't ever find or follow any conversations on Tumblr, and that's where so much fannish stuff went.

Date: 2017-04-10 03:57 pm (UTC)
selenay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] selenay
Me too :-)

Date: 2017-04-10 07:12 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Text can come here! Nice easily readable not-in-five-point-light-grey-on-lighter-grey text!

Date: 2017-04-10 08:14 pm (UTC)
selenay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] selenay
Text? Isn't that a bit radical? Isn't fandom entirely power by gifs now? *is old*

Date: 2017-04-10 08:23 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
SO IT WOULD SEEM. Desaturated grainy gifs at that. I am one of those people who has to disable gifs in my browser else they are likely to set off migraines, so Tumblr looks very....odd to me.

Date: 2017-04-10 08:42 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
See the subtitled gifs often give me the heebie-jeebies because they have typos and I CAN'T CORRECT THEM. (T calls me a vampire, after that old X-Files episode, because I have to have things in order and pick stuff up and all my DVDs and CDs are lined up precisely.)

But I can spend like two or three hours on Tumblr liking or reblogging stuff and then go like "Why was I doing that?" It's like watching three bad sitcoms in a row, IDEFK. The whole idea of Web 2.0 where there's endless scroll and you never get to the bottom doesn't work that well with my tightly wound little psyche, either.

Date: 2017-04-11 04:59 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Yeah, for me it's kind of nice for reblogging pretty art, and pretty fandom pictures, and music, and some other stuff. Sort of like Pinterest or Polyvore I guess, except I get the same kind of feeling after a while -- sort of numbed out and like I haven't done anything. And there's so little original content.

Date: 2017-04-11 12:52 pm (UTC)
selenay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] selenay
*tries to imagine gif-less Tumblr*

*head explodes*

Date: 2017-04-11 02:50 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Oh, what's REALLY amazing is a gif-less Goodreads. I have an old and cranky laptop and Goodreads made it hang so badly it was like those caught-in-the-air Matrix action scenes.

Date: 2017-04-11 02:58 pm (UTC)
selenay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] selenay
I'm trying to imagine that, but my brain fails. Please tell me they at least provide titles in place of the book covers? GR's endless scrolling sometimes defeats my fast and happy compy!

Date: 2017-04-11 03:02 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Oh it's more the book reviews, they kind of look like

"So I heard about this book and my reaction is


but no really


I've been a fan since


I have no idea who started it but I want to throttle them. The gifs are GIANT.

Date: 2017-04-11 03:37 pm (UTC)
selenay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] selenay
*mutters terrible things at people rating those reviews* Good tip!

Date: 2017-04-11 06:17 pm (UTC)
selenay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] selenay
Ooh, interesting. I often write more detailed reviews of things I was ambivalent or conflicted about than things I straight-up loved, because I end up with a lot of feelings about why it wasn't perfect and why it could have been. I hadn't realised other people might find those more useful!

Date: 2017-04-11 09:11 pm (UTC)
selenay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] selenay
And sometimes things people don't like (too much romance! Too much character stuff!) are what I like, too, so I've definitely had reviews from a person who was meh or conflicted sell me a book.

Burn it ratings are someitmes useful, just because one person's awful is another person's catnip, but mid-ratings can be more informative overall.

Date: 2017-04-11 03:33 pm (UTC)
selenay: (Default)
From: [personal profile] selenay
Grr, mutter mutter. Reviews like that awful. Instant back button for me, even if I can figure out what the hell their gifs are supposed to mean.

I'll take a dozen "OMG SQUEE" reviews over 95% gif reaction reviews.

Date: 2017-04-11 10:17 pm (UTC)
nenya_kanadka: rubber stamp text: "complete and utter bullshit" (@ bullshit)
From: [personal profile] nenya_kanadka

Date: 2017-04-10 03:38 am (UTC)
rivendellrose: (Default)
From: [personal profile] rivendellrose
Yeah, I deleted my LJ not so much because I think I personally would be hurt by the new ToS, but more just out of protest and because most of the people I know were already cross-posting here. I could probably have left my LJ up there for ages, but stuff like saying the ToS are only legally binding in one language and making the "not now" button go directly to a logout screen really got my dander up, and I hate the idea of (even indirectly) supporting a site that's likely to start coming down on people for political and sexual-orientation speech (even if they're probably not going to come down on mine).

I just wasn't getting a good feeling there anymore. Here is better. It's quiet, but it's more what I remember LJ being in the good old days.

Date: 2017-04-10 05:25 am (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
You know, sometimes DW randomly logs me out after I've been inactive for a while and goes "Your login cookie has disappeared." Do you get that message?

Date: 2017-04-10 07:06 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
..................wtf have you tried sacrificing small fuzzy animals

Date: 2017-04-10 07:11 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
Well YOU like spiders, so maybe!

....yeah since you said it doesn't happen to you guys in town it sounds like the setup you have at home? W.T.F.

Date: 2017-04-10 06:01 am (UTC)
bridgetmkennitt: (Default)
From: [personal profile] bridgetmkennitt
The newish posting interface is almost unusable for me anyway.

Ditto. I hated manually crossposting there for my exchange and this year (before the TOS happened), I said enough was enough. Now I'm glad I made that decision.

I just saw an uptick of activity on my flist from people dusting off their DWs. I'm hoping that stays.

Date: 2017-04-10 08:55 am (UTC)
sparowe: (See)
From: [personal profile] sparowe
I post so little, I'm still posting in both places. The only thing that really has me keeping it is that it's a permanent account, and a good archive for what I have here. Honestly, at this point I'm mostly keeping up for the few people that are left, not because I want to blog anymore. Too many people--like yourself--that I don't want to lose track of.

Date: 2017-04-11 08:39 am (UTC)
sparowe: (See)
From: [personal profile] sparowe
And admittedly, I don't use FB much myself. But yeah, not going anywhere. We've been doing this too long! :)

Date: 2017-04-10 10:35 am (UTC)
rmc28: Rachel smiling against background of trees, with newly-cut short hair (Default)
From: [personal profile] rmc28
I am mostly in agreement with you about personal RL consequences (yes I talk about politics and LGBT+ issues sometimes etc, but don't think I am their target), but I really wasn't prepared to leave *my* content up for them to serve ads next to. I think that's why I got a paid account in the first place.

(I am bothered by the likely consequences for the people who *are* the target of the rule changes, but I can't do much about that.)

I made the same decision as you about my comments and community posts.
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