muccamukk: Close up of Rey wearing a beat up X-Wing pilot's helmet and looking up at the sky. (SW: Dream of Stars)
[personal profile] muccamukk
When the Star Wars: The Last Jedi teaser dropped, I watched it three times and then woke Nenya up and made her watch it. Nenya: That... doesn't really show anything new. Me: *wanders around cheerfully humming Binary Sunset theme for next two days.* Apparently I'm easy.

"Carrie Fisher Was a Script Doctor For Star Wars: The Last Jedi"

Star Wars - The Force Awakens - Rey's Theme - Violin vs. Machine cover.

Most of you know now I have a mixed relationship with Moffat's run, which has followed my mixed relationship with RTD's run. I watched the last two Christmas specials, liked the River one, was kinda meh on the super hero one, hadn't watched the last series with Clara because the previous series with Clara pissed me off so badly. I love Capaldi generally, but found that Twelve wasn't really my Doctor (though he was more my Doctor than Matt Smith, admittedly). I liked Clara, but her plots often made me want to set my hair on fire, so I bailed for a bit.

Doctor Who 10x01: "The Pilot." OMG! I LOVED THIS EPISODE! I love Bill. I love her relationship with what seems to be a kinder, lighter Twelve. I like Nardol and how he seems to be the one proping up the Doctor, rather than the companion doing all the emotional h/c stuff. I loved the references to River and Susan (HI! SUSAN! HI!) Bill reminded me so much of Rose, though a more confident version. Like that she got to be so openly queer and it wasn't even commented on, and the story with Heather was wonderful Doctor Who creepy. Does anyone else think that Susan will be in this series? I liked that the arc mystery was What's In the Vault, not What's Up With the Companion. I loved the humour, and the compassion, and the adventure. If the rest of the series is like this, I will be a very happy panda.

Apparently Kris Marshall is the odds on favourite for the new Doctor. Please no.

I watched Cape Fear, or rather I watched the bits of Cape Fear that weren't showing women being terrorised. It was a short movie.

Nenya and I watched The Man in the Gray Flannel Suit, which we both really liked. There have been a million movies about white suburban malaise in the 1950s, and I guess this was one of the first. I really did like the focus on mental health, struggling to set boundries, and how much each little individual choice made up your character. It felt like it was about real people, not the pop version of what the '50s were like. I'm surprised they got all the gory and unglamorous depictions of WWII past the censors.

Nenya and I watched The Purple Plain, which was enjoyable on another level. It's a British WWII movie about a Canadian Mosquito pilot in Burma who is Sad Because of His Dead Wife, and Learns To Love Again. The plot was not all that, but it was reasonable in its depiction of the Burmese, and featured perspiration soaked and increasingly grubby Gregory Peck the Canadian, so I was well pleased. I was charmed that they'd obviously decided to hire him, knew he couldn't do a British accent, and therefore literally labeled him "CANADA" and called it done. (I have a weakness for RCAF Mosquito pilots as that's how my maternal grandfather spent the war, though not in Burma.)

Date: 2017-04-18 08:56 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore
I watched the last two Christmas specials, liked the River one, was kinda meh on the super hero one, hadn't watched the last series with Clara because the previous series with Clara pissed me off so badly. I love Capaldi generally, but found that Twelve wasn't really my Doctor

Yup, yup, yup....hmmm, maybe I'll get T to at least try the pilot with me. We both bounced so hard off Capaldi it wasn't even funny, and it was dismaying since I like him in other things. Bill sounds really interesting.

Man in the Gray Flannel Suit is a pretty good book too! Purple Plain also sounds neat.

Date: 2017-04-18 09:09 pm (UTC)
kore: (Default)
From: [personal profile] kore




Sequel? WTF

oh man, that sounds irredeemably awful. Yuck.

Date: 2017-04-19 05:41 am (UTC)
nenya_kanadka: Wonder Woman poster (kneeling with sword) (Default)
From: [personal profile] nenya_kanadka
Yeah I can mostly deal with the ADD INCREASINGLY EPIC SHIT!! stuff, but when the interactions between people become ones that don't feel real to me, I bail.

Apparently there's a MitGFS book sequel where Tommy cheats on Betsy with a younger woman is generally fucks up his life.


The thing I liked about that movie was that it wasn't the cliched cis het guy midlife crisis!

Also that he and Betsy really genuinely loved each other, even though their experiences of, eg, the war, were so different. TOM WOULD NEVER

and if he did I would slap him

and not in a sexy way, I am happy to slap G. Peck in a sexy day any day of the week, but that would not be this

Date: 2017-04-21 05:50 am (UTC)
nenya_kanadka: Wonder Woman poster (kneeling with sword) (Default)
From: [personal profile] nenya_kanadka
Yeah, same, like...he is a pretty pretty boy in most of the early ones and I would like to Do Things To Him, or failing that have Bad Men Do, but I can't seem to get it to gel in my head. (Why I need PMG to do some time travel, tbh.) It might help if I were more willing to debauch Catholic priests when they are as adorable and genuine as Peck's are.

S&M a bit more than D/s but still.


Oh, well.

(NEEDS MORE FIC of some kind dammit)

Date: 2017-04-22 05:28 am (UTC)
nenya_kanadka: its purely carnal qualities outweighed its metaphorical significance (@ carnal qualities)
From: [personal profile] nenya_kanadka
Yes! He just needs hugs! But for several of them (*hem* Francie Chisholm *ahem*) if I were going in for smut, I think he would very much enjoy the sort of praise kink where he was told what to do and then praised extravagantly for doing it right. That could work really well with the sweet sort of non-sadomasochistic D/s. That one would be M/m for sure. Might have to be an AU?

With Spellbound, I think he just needs a whole lot of petting. I mean you could probably go in for some kind of "do what you're told/do this kink scene as a way of derailing the spinning guilty thoughts about the murder you totally did not commit, dammit, John, stop blaming yourself," but I'm not sure. Hmm.

I'm not against femdom here. Mike and Stretch was the one I was thinking of with that though, yeah. I think I could very much be into something where after the end of the movie she ties him up and has a thoroughly satisfying ol' time making very sure he understands who's the boss in this relationship. (Like I said before, if he weren't doing the whole 'I could rape you here jsyk' I would have liked the rolling around on the ground tussling scene, even.) Lots of physicality on her part, with some slapping or hair-pulling or making him do what she wants. Could be hot.

Oh, there's also Pauline seducing Fedya to the dark side with toppy sex in more of a femme fatale sort of way. Less physical, more "If you want to have sex with me you'll do what I say" and lots of soulful looks and possessive removal of his swanky suits or something. IDK.

He's just too good at wounded gazelle, though, most of the time! And then the loss of the pillow lips is a tragedy, I agree. :(

Jonathan Clarke probably got up to a heck of a lot offscreen. Where is the fandom?

Date: 2017-04-18 09:25 pm (UTC)
kjata: (under the brown fog of a winter dawn)
From: [personal profile] kjata
Matt Smith always delivered his lines far too arrogant for my tastes, so I stopped with DW completely during eleven's run and haven't picked it back up. But ewwwwww, Kris Marshall??? Why can't they just go ahead and get Jack Davenport in so he can have skeevy sexual tension with his wife the female Master and call it a day?
Edited (borked formatting) Date: 2017-04-18 09:26 pm (UTC)

Date: 2017-04-19 12:18 am (UTC)
ironymaiden: (crappytown)
From: [personal profile] ironymaiden
I feel conflicted about the pictures on the desk. I don't want to see River, but I do want something with Susan.
speaking of pictures, I love how they underplayed the box of pictures of Bill's mom. that was perfect.

Date: 2017-04-19 12:34 am (UTC)
nonniemous: (Donna fun)
From: [personal profile] nonniemous
Is the Star Wars teaser trailer required to do anything but tease? :D Color me easy, as well.

I bailed on Dr. Who back when they ruined River Song. And then they stole Capaldi from Musketeers and ruined that show and... yeah. Not sure I'm ever going back. Then again, I'm still in love with Eccleston's Dr.

Carrie Fisher, script doctor, princess. What a class act, and how I miss her.

Date: 2017-04-19 04:31 am (UTC)
nonniemous: (SRSLY!)
From: [personal profile] nonniemous
They could probably play that theme over a blank screen and show a picture of Finn, and I'd be pretty happy.

Pretty much, yup.

Yeah, that was sad, how fast Musketeers dropped. They lost their main showrunner after the first season I think, along with Capaldi, and it killed the show. I loved the characters, so I did watch all the way through, and season 3 was mostly better than season 2--but that's not saying much.

My big problem with Dr. Who was I got tired of Emo!Ten and then it got to where I couldn't stand Amy Pond. I watched through until "A Good Man Goes to War" in spite of my growing dislike of harridan!Amy, but then they made River her and Rory's daughter? NO. I couldn't believe how they trashed River like that. Just...NO. I haven't watched since. I'll always love Time's New Roman, but the rest of it, nope.

Of course, it doesn't help that the Whovian fan community has gotten a really bad rep, and my spawn, due to their interactions with said community, have gone from fans to virulently anti-anything to do with the show.

And if they cast Marshall what's-his-face, I don't think I'll ever come back. I've been thinking about watching some of the Capaldi eps, but then I just get sad thinking of him as Richelieu. Ah, well.

Meanwhile, Star Wars! *bounces*

Date: 2017-04-20 01:46 am (UTC)
nonniemous: (Captain Jack)
From: [personal profile] nonniemous
They didn't lose their show runner! That was the worst part. They lost their time slot, and when it moved from Merlin time to post-watershed the SAME show runner decided that what the people wanted was a grimdark Musketeers show!

WHAT??? WHAT??? That...GAH! The showrunner ruined an awesome show for...ARGH. That's even more frustrating. As for Aramis, I just ignore canon. *g*

Dr. Who fans! Wanky since 196whatever!

LOL! I'll have to tell the spawn about that. They are better than most Millenials about thinking everything in fandom started in 2015 or later, but still...

Date: 2017-04-19 03:59 am (UTC)
scintilla10: a happy Katara canonballing into the water (AtLA - Katara wheee!)
From: [personal profile] scintilla10
Ahhhhhh yes, that was pretty much my reaction to the SW trailer too!! :D \o/

Date: 2017-04-19 04:07 am (UTC)
st_aurafina: Bill Potts in a yellow parka (DW: Bill Potts)
From: [personal profile] st_aurafina
i don't think the front runner for the Doctor usually gets the role? I hope not, anyway, we've had enough of pale men with no eyebrows.

*fingers crossed for Idris Elba, Olivia Colman or Nicola Walker*

I would love it if Susan were in this season, omg! In the meantime, I'm in love with Bill and will happily watch her wander around the universe being genre savvy and crushing on girls at first sight.

Date: 2017-04-19 12:23 pm (UTC)
marthawells: (SGA Team)
From: [personal profile] marthawells
I LOVED Bill, and I loved the way the episode introduced her. It made the whole story new again, seeing it through her eyes.

I had problems with the last Clara season too, but I did like the way they ended it. I wasn't expecting it and it was pretty cool.

Date: 2017-04-19 09:03 pm (UTC)
nenya_kanadka: Wonder Woman poster (kneeling with sword) (Default)
From: [personal profile] nenya_kanadka
...oh. Ohhhhh.

That might have been my problem right there. Or a part of it anyway. That I was subconsciously expecting things to be told from companion POV and so it felt weird and not-right in a way I couldn't quite put my finger on when they became the non-POV characters for whatever reason.

I mean, maybe that's not it after all, but right now it explains a few things.

I do think the viewpoint shifts and who's telling the story shifts in a show like this, but you have things like "Blink" that are clearly outsider POV and you have things like "Rose" where the Doctor is the weird mystery (but at least some of the audience already knows and loves at least some version of him, so it's both manic pixie dream boy and outsider POV at once). Then you have stuff where the Doctor is trying to figure out why his companion is such a mystery, oy. This recent ep was more with the "we know the Doctor but Bill doesn't, so as she's figuring out what his weird shit is all about, we get hints on what he's been up to since last time" which is much more like "Rose" and certainly an approach I enjoy.

I feel like with someone so ancient and epic as the Doctor, most of the time it works better to see him secondhand through other people's eyes, with bits and pieces and allusions and hints as to what he's feeling. Because trying to put him onscreen directly all the time is like trying to explain magic through equations or god through teenaged poetry or a tesseract in 2D. It flattens him, and in removing the ambiguity it can make you go "Nooo that's not the Doctor I know" when maybe other approaches allow what I see in the Doctor and what Moff or whoever sees to coexist. And yes sometimes you want those moments where he sits down and looks you earnestly in the eye and tells you how he feels about Gallifrey, but those are more powerful for their rareness. I think.

And of course that's in addition to whether the companion gets to be subject or object--if I come to a show with the expectation that a young female character is going to get to be the viewer, to see her get turned into the ~mystery~ again is just more of the same "well, girls, who can understand *them*, amirite." Not that the Doctor can't be seen to react to humans as strange from his POV! But.

I certainly haven't hated every outing from Moff or anything. But this may well explain some of the disconnects.

More show, less tell, maybe. And more Bill! :D ❤

Date: 2017-04-20 06:24 am (UTC)
nenya_kanadka: Wonder Woman poster (kneeling with sword) (Default)
From: [personal profile] nenya_kanadka
Agreed on non-modern girl/boy as a companion--that's always fun. In the Romana episodes I've seen (Romana I & Four), it was kind of like, let's watch these two odd protagionists do shit! and the mysteries were "how are they going to survive this week's monster?"

I love the Doctor, but I like his story from a step back.


Though I was just thinking about the Eighth Doctor novels. I think getting inside his head might work a bit better when it's a book rather than a TV show. And maybe when it's Eight rather than Eleven or early Twelve.
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